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Author Topic: Are the music charts pointless and full of crap?  (Read 3218 times)
Doraemon
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« on: November 16, 2003, 10:33:06 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2003, 01:51:35 PM »

Pointless?  I'm not sure.  People seem to like to rank things (and Billboard likes to make money from ranking things).  So I guess it's true point is to make Billboard money.  That's why they run it, after all.

Full of crap?  Obviously a matter of opinion.  I'm not familiar at all with what's on the Billboard charts at the moment.  Chances are that I wouldn't care for it, although I'm not sure I'd say it's crap.  I'll have to reserve "crap" for a case-by-case basis. Smiley

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« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2003, 10:53:32 PM »

Discuss?  Do you read the Tech Report too?

Billboard blows.  Pretty much all music blows now-a-days.  Give me nineties original alternative.  Ah, the good old days!  No hundred-million Tool wanna-bes back then.

The Incredible Moses Leroy and Request-a-Song are the only artists I've bought a CD from in the past three years.
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« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2003, 03:26:29 AM »

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Give me nineties original alternative. Ah, the good old days! No hundred-million Tool wanna-bes back then.

Yeah, only one-hundred-million Pearl Jam wannabees instead.

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« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2003, 08:31:08 AM »

Over here in the UK, the situation is that it's taking less and less sales for someone to to get to number 1 in the charts. Wouldn't it be more useful if we included music downloaded (legally) over the Internet?
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« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2003, 05:29:10 PM »

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Over here in the UK, the situation is that it's taking less and less sales for someone to to get to number 1 in the charts. Wouldn't it be more useful if we included music downloaded (legally) over the Internet?

If you're talking about tracking downloads from major pay download services like iTunes and Rhapsody, then I'm sure Billboard or someone else is working on it.  Those sales will have an effect on chart positions eventually, later if not sooner.

But if you're talking about free downloads from independent artists like Request-A-Song, then there's little hope of that happening.  It would be tough to globally track and truthfully audit download counts from such a disparate group.  Remember, products and services usually follow the flow of money, and where money doesn't go, the services don't go either.  Even if we had a free downloads chart, I bet Billboard and the like wouldn't care about it because (a) the downloads aren't directly involved with making money, and (b) independent artists are outside the recording industry's realm of control.

As for independant pay-per-download artists running their own stores on the internet, the reasons a prominent chart doesn't exist for them is similar to the free-download reasons listed above.  Rarely does enough money change hands to warrant any serious attention from music publications and businesses.

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« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2003, 12:47:17 PM »

I don't understand Billboard... who cares what the top 40 are? I think people should start caring about what THEY like.
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« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2004, 04:26:33 PM »

There used to be a place called mp3.com, it was free for artists and it would rank you based upon how often you're song was downloaded and what not. My highest ranking ever was 13 on the Electronic Industrial chart... Not so amazing... but I was proud.

I think the Billboard charts are an important aspect of modern music. I generally listen to the CD ranked number one for a couple reasons. First, an ego booster... because so often the No. 1 CD is just... regurgitated crap. But also to model my production qualities after what's really catching ears. I would never write music to sound like what's popular... but I would definitely follow the trends set by the top producers in the world.

Any of you hear Marilyn Manson's The Golden Age Of Grotesque... If you record music you really don't have to be a Manson fan to dig that CD... it's really well done.
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